09-25-2017, 06:52 PM
(09-25-2017, 11:59 AM)NakiFan Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZbTVccnVdF/
Tyson should be ready for a comeback soon as he's looking in good shape.
Joseph Parker
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09-25-2017, 06:52 PM
(09-25-2017, 11:59 AM)NakiFan Wrote: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZbTVccnVdF/ Tyson should be ready for a comeback soon as he's looking in good shape.
09-25-2017, 06:55 PM
I was the one who said Hughie would be like Dimitrenko.
I just never figured he could run so fast!
09-25-2017, 07:59 PM
I'm really gutted. Maybe Joe won. Maybe he lost. But he was horrible, especially being the champ. He looked much better against Takam and Ruiz, even with his weaknesses. He's gone backwards: lunging, head down, inaccurate, poor footwork. I can't believe he actually had sparring partners to practice for this fight.
He needs to fight soft competition (Japan), maybe Hammer and Bellew if he beats Haye. Whyte, AJ, Wilder would murder him based on the performance against Hughie. KB has ruined him. If he did this in the fight, he had to do it in sparring.
09-25-2017, 08:37 PM
(09-25-2017, 07:59 PM)diehard Wrote: I'm really gutted. Maybe Joe won. Maybe he lost. But he was horrible, especially being the champ. He looked much better against Takam and Ruiz, even with his weaknesses. He's gone backwards: lunging, head down, inaccurate, poor footwork. I can't believe he actually had sparring partners to practice for this fight. I don't think its that bad, Hughie offers a combo of a very good jab, fast feet, good judge of distance, rolls with punches well and seems to have a very good chin. Id pick parker over whyte, him vs wilder is 60/40 wilder and he has a punchers chance vs AJ. I'd look to take the whyte fight next.
09-25-2017, 08:42 PM
(09-25-2017, 06:43 PM)gothenaki Wrote:(09-24-2017, 06:14 PM)Infern0 Wrote:(09-24-2017, 04:05 PM)gothenaki Wrote: Thank God the judges didn't give it to the dancing giraffe. Even when he landed he was leaning back on the ropes, and he got warned for his slapping back-of-the-hand "jabs" I score clean punches landed. Hughie was very defensive and i didnt appreciate the tactics but a jab is a jab, and anything that isn't a jab counts as a power punch. Based on that i thought hughie won rounds 1-4 pretty clearly, i gave parker 2 clear rounds between 4-12 and the other 6 rounds were subjective. Don't mind joe getting the decision but neither was impressive and as the champion with more experience im more dissapointed in joe than hughie
09-25-2017, 09:04 PM
(09-23-2017, 09:51 PM)Veritas Wrote:(09-22-2017, 08:26 PM)gothenaki Wrote: Parker should chop Fury down, and with the money available if he gets past this one, he'll be VERY motivated. I have to admit. When the ring announcer read the cards and until the winner was declared I thought Fury would get the decision... Given the hype around a 'fix' being in, I admit buying into the conspiracy of a Fury rig. No such thing it turns out. Boxing's integrity restored - ha! Still, I didn't see the dominance on the cards reflected in the fight. Feet feet feet feet... the first thing you learn in boxing - before you get to throw a punch - is how to stand - your stance. It's all about balance. Boxers learn to move around the ring on the balls of their toes keeping legs apart, balanced, throwing punches from the balls of their toes. Hughie rightly ran all night, no match for the power of Parker - no surprise but, Joe had less than no clue about how to deal with it... even after two training camps to prepare.. If I was to rate aspects of Joe's fight I would have to be brutal.. Footwork : 1/10 I don't want the labour the point but he did not score well on any of the basic boxing skill sets in my opinion. In fact, Joseph is getting worse. I'm not a knocker, just a fan disappointed in the progress of what 'was once a real contender'. Joe was not sharp. Not a crisp punch thrown all night as he lunged in vain. Where has Joe's zing gone? He looks flat. Why couldn't he trace Fury's movement from the balls of his feet and throw knockout punches when in range? I get the feeling that Joe has been seduced by the Title and the limelight that comes with it. He does not seem to have the inner mental focus that he exuded a few years back. He was humble, serious then, now everything is a laugh. Something has changed and not for the positive. Be very careful Joe and please put YOUR boxing career first. V.
I have to admit. When the ring announcer read the cards and until the winner was declared I thought Fury would get the decision...
Given the hype around a 'fix' being in, I admit buying into the conspiracy of a Fury rig. No such thing it turns out. Boxing's integrity restored - ha! Still, I didn't see the dominance on the cards reflected in the fight. Feet feet feet feet... the first thing you learn in boxing - before you get to throw a punch - is how to stand - your stance. It's all about balance. Boxers learn to move around the ring on the balls of their toes keeping legs apart, balanced, throwing punches from the balls of their toes. Hughie rightly ran all night, no match for the power of Parker - no surprise but, Joe had less than no clue about how to deal with it... even after two training camps to prepare.. If I was to rate aspects of Joe's fight I would have to be brutal.. Footwork : 1/10 I don't want the labour the point but he did not score well on any of the basic boxing skill sets in my opinion. In fact, Joseph is getting worse. I'm not a knocker, just a fan disappointed in the progress of what 'was once a real contender'. Joe was not sharp. Not a crisp punch thrown all night as he lunged in vain. Where has Joe's zing gone? He looks flat. Why couldn't he trace Fury's movement from the balls of his feet and throw knockout punches when in range? I get the feeling that Joe has been seduced by the Title and the limelight that comes with it. He does not seem to have the inner mental focus that he exuded a few years back. He was humble, serious then, now everything is a laugh. Something has changed and not for the positive. Be very careful Joe and please put YOUR boxing career first. V. [/quote] Totally agree, V. Infern0, I had the same thoughts BEFORE this fight. He beats Whyte, Wilder 60/40, and a punchers chance against AJ. As per the above post, this is amateur stuff. Yes, Hughie is elusive, good jab (with no power), tall, dances well, but a very average Hughie made Joe look like an amateur.
09-25-2017, 10:40 PM
I think you guys are overlooking the fact that Huggie didn't score with his jab more than half a dozen times. The vast majority were swatted away or blocked with a solid guard on the gloves or simply evaded it by head movement.
I agree that he looked very subpar with his feet movement. I firmly believe it's linked to his weight. He's probably 6to8 kg too heavy. But in saying that he seems better in getting thru 12 rounds. Stylistically I just think Huggie was just the worst possible opponent...but JP still has the strap..and we still have something to talk about. ;-)
09-26-2017, 12:07 AM
(09-25-2017, 08:37 PM)Infern0 Wrote:(09-25-2017, 07:59 PM)diehard Wrote: I'm really gutted. Maybe Joe won. Maybe he lost. But he was horrible, especially being the champ. He looked much better against Takam and Ruiz, even with his weaknesses. He's gone backwards: lunging, head down, inaccurate, poor footwork. I can't believe he actually had sparring partners to practice for this fight. I have to agree with nearly all of that , I think Hughie would make a lot of fighters offence look bad. Maybe the soft option with Fujimoto would be a better path if it's combined with new training If not replacing Barry at least get another trainer on board Back to school , followed by a soft voluntary , then the mandatory (Hammer probably) only then step up to the big boys.
09-26-2017, 12:53 AM
I get that he looks slow on his feet, and that he needs to improve massively, but he's taken Andy Ruiz's 0, Hughie Fury's 0 (in his own back yard), and beaten Takam.
As a 25yr old still learning his craft, that's pretty ballsy. Also, he's never been down, and while he coasts sometimes, he's still yet to be in a war that could possibly bring out the best in him. Dillian Whyte? I thought an older Chisora beat him, and if Chisora had the stamina of his youth, he would definitely have won that fight. Saying that, the Chisora/Whyte fight was a shit-ton better than Parker/Fury Fujimoto is the easy bread, sometimes you should take it. Also it will get Parker fans in another market, where kiwis like Sefo and Hunt are well known. There's money in that |
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