Joshua vs Parker betting
#31
(01-10-2018, 07:24 PM)Infern0 Wrote: It was where they wrote the article from.

It wasnt bunce it was what robert mcracken was saying about AJ's weight he basically said they are still tweaking it and think takam was a bit too heavy but will take a couple lb back off no big deal

But then the herald were like "joshua weight crisis"

He also said that aj is coming into his prime and they want to be agile so he doesnt take too much punishment (over the course of his career)

And the herald were like "aj doesnt wanna take punishment from parker"

Like they just twisted it out of context.

Steve bunce boxing podcast is free from the bbc every week and a good listen btw.

Typical media. Anything for a click.
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#32
Man that article was playing up. I like reading them for the hype but alot of it is full of shit. Most boxers go up and down with weight, no biggie at all. Joshua is very similar to klit and i dont see Jo's jab being a problem for AJ, i just hope Jo can unlesh some good combos that can set up heavy hits.
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#33
(01-10-2018, 10:19 PM)diehard Wrote:
(01-10-2018, 07:24 PM)Infern0 Wrote: It was where they wrote the article from.

It wasnt bunce it was what robert mcracken was saying about AJ's weight he basically said they are still tweaking it and think takam was a bit too heavy but will take a couple lb back off no big deal

But then the herald were like "joshua weight crisis"

He also said that aj is coming into his prime and they want to be agile so he doesnt take too much punishment (over the course of his career)

And the herald were like "aj doesnt wanna take punishment from parker"

Like they just twisted it out of context.

Steve bunce boxing podcast is free from the bbc every week and a good listen btw.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.  A shame really.  

Question for you:  I'm advocating that Parker stay just out of range of AJ's jab, and then do surprise attacks to get inside and try to nail him.  I think AJ's "robotic" style is a positive, not a negative.  It allows him to have a tight defense and to throw mostly straight punches.  The counter to that is to surprise the robot, pop in, land, get out.  Fast.  Trying to win rounds, or just to outbox him, will lead to Joe getting beaten up.  Joe needs to nail him in the first few rounds and get him outta there before AJ gets into his groove.

You know AJ's style well.  Do you agree with me?

Yup i think that's the approach I'd take.

Like for me a prime David Haye would have been a horrible style for Joshua and i would gave picked a prime Haye. 

If i was training parker id be trying to get as light as possible, i dont think id even bother with weights, just speed work, footwork head movement and mobility.

Parker has the handspeed but his legs have become plodding, they need to fix that and try and get him to move his head.
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#34
(01-10-2018, 11:49 PM)Infern0 Wrote:
(01-10-2018, 10:19 PM)diehard Wrote:
(01-10-2018, 07:24 PM)Infern0 Wrote: It was where they wrote the article from.

It wasnt bunce it was what robert mcracken was saying about AJ's weight he basically said they are still tweaking it and think takam was a bit too heavy but will take a couple lb back off no big deal

But then the herald were like "joshua weight crisis"

He also said that aj is coming into his prime and they want to be agile so he doesnt take too much punishment (over the course of his career)

And the herald were like "aj doesnt wanna take punishment from parker"

Like they just twisted it out of context.

Steve bunce boxing podcast is free from the bbc every week and a good listen btw.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.  A shame really.  

Question for you:  I'm advocating that Parker stay just out of range of AJ's jab, and then do surprise attacks to get inside and try to nail him.  I think AJ's "robotic" style is a positive, not a negative.  It allows him to have a tight defense and to throw mostly straight punches.  The counter to that is to surprise the robot, pop in, land, get out.  Fast.  Trying to win rounds, or just to outbox him, will lead to Joe getting beaten up.  Joe needs to nail him in the first few rounds and get him outta there before AJ gets into his groove.

You know AJ's style well.  Do you agree with me?

Yup i think that's the approach I'd take.

Like for me a prime David Haye would have been a horrible style for Joshua and i would gave picked a prime Haye. 

If i was training parker id be trying to get as light as possible, i dont think id even bother with weights, just speed work, footwork head movement and mobility.

Parker has the handspeed but his legs have become plodding, they need to fix that and try and get him to move his head.

Diehard, you think AJ to fight tall similar to lennox and klit. throw jabs and if joe looks to get inside, pop him with the right hand?

agree with inferno, hand speed is there but doesn't have the footwork to get himself into range to actually use that hand speed.
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#35
(01-11-2018, 04:42 AM)Nigs Wrote:
(01-10-2018, 11:49 PM)Infern0 Wrote:
(01-10-2018, 10:19 PM)diehard Wrote:
(01-10-2018, 07:24 PM)Infern0 Wrote: It was where they wrote the article from.

It wasnt bunce it was what robert mcracken was saying about AJ's weight he basically said they are still tweaking it and think takam was a bit too heavy but will take a couple lb back off no big deal

But then the herald were like "joshua weight crisis"

He also said that aj is coming into his prime and they want to be agile so he doesnt take too much punishment (over the course of his career)

And the herald were like "aj doesnt wanna take punishment from parker"

Like they just twisted it out of context.

Steve bunce boxing podcast is free from the bbc every week and a good listen btw.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.  A shame really.  

Question for you:  I'm advocating that Parker stay just out of range of AJ's jab, and then do surprise attacks to get inside and try to nail him.  I think AJ's "robotic" style is a positive, not a negative.  It allows him to have a tight defense and to throw mostly straight punches.  The counter to that is to surprise the robot, pop in, land, get out.  Fast.  Trying to win rounds, or just to outbox him, will lead to Joe getting beaten up.  Joe needs to nail him in the first few rounds and get him outta there before AJ gets into his groove.

You know AJ's style well.  Do you agree with me?

Yup i think that's the approach I'd take.

Like for me a prime David Haye would have been a horrible style for Joshua and i would gave picked a prime Haye. 

If i was training parker id be trying to get as light as possible, i dont think id even bother with weights, just speed work, footwork head movement and mobility.

Parker has the handspeed but his legs have become plodding, they need to fix that and try and get him to move his head.

Diehard, you think AJ to fight tall similar to lennox and klit. throw jabs and if joe looks to get inside, pop him with the right hand?

agree with inferno, hand speed is there but doesn't have the footwork to get himself into range to actually use that hand speed.

Nigs, I think AJ will hunt him down, hit him with a jab, and follow up with his right hand. I don't think he'll fight at range past the 2nd round.
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#36
Happy New Year all, hope all is good.

Great to see this is finally coming together, and from what I understand its all a done deal but signed.

This is a very good opportunity for JP to see where he actually is in the Heavyweight division. Yes he's a champion, but as we know some of the fights were closer than what they should have been, and, the awkwardness of the Fury fight didn't do JP any favours.

My concerns on this fight are the following;

* If JP gets tagged early by AJ, will he go into his shell and not commit with his punches? i.e. avoid heavy exchanges and AJ wins a non-eventful 12 rounder unanimously.
* JP is out-sized and out-muscled, and the towel is thrown in by the corner to prevent a serious KO.
*JP comes in too light as they want him to outpunch AJ for speed. And the punches have nil effect which make him look inferior to AJ's power. AJ wins it over 12 rounds unanimously.

Positives for this fight are;

* JP has too much speed for AJ and wears him down. An eventual TKO win to JP.
* AJ runs out of gas and JP lands too many non-answered punches. An eventual TKO or KO to JP.

From the above, I really hope the latter list comes to fruition. JP has a boxes chance, he doesn't have the KO power AJ has, but we do know he wears his opponents down with accuracy and speed.

If JP does lose, as I have always said it wont be a bad thing. JP is a good learner and will come back a better fighter for it. He is young and learning his trade, and got a good future.
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#37
I agree with Dannyboy i actually dont think a loss would be terrible for either man in the long run. I think both have obvious areas for improvement and often big changes only happen after a loss
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#38
Ring magazine dubs Joseph Parker a 'live underdog' who can KO Anthony Joshua

New Zealand heavyweight boxer Joseph Parker continues to be given a decent chance of beating Anthony Joshua in the eyes of some respected international boxing pundits.

Joseph Parker has been rated a "live underdog" with the ability to knock out Anthony Joshua by Ring magazine, dubbed "the Bible of Boxing"

Final talks between the camps' promoters continue in London to seal a highly-anticipated world heavyweight unification fight where Parker puts his WBO belt on the line and Joshua risks his IBF and WBA titles.

Predictions continue in general media and specialist boxing publications.

None have more respect than Ring magazine, who have been covering the sport from the United States since 1922 and even have their own belts for each of the boxing's weight divisions.

They were looking at the ramifications and likely outcomes of two juicy matchups on the table – WBC champion Deontay Wilder against giant Cuban Luis Ortiz on March 3 and Parker v Joshua which is tentatively scheduled for March 31 if the promoters can get it across the line.

Ring acknowledge Joshua's favouritism but warn not to rule out Parker in a fight where both fighters enter with unbeaten records.

"I consider Wilder and Joshua to be clear favourites in their upcoming title bouts in March, but I view Ortiz and Parker as live underdogs," Ring editor Doug Fischer wrote.

"I think Wilder can trouble Ortiz with his speed and lateral movement and gradually wear down the dangerous Cuban southpaw to a late stoppage, and I believe that Joshua can do the same to Parker with smart pressure.

"The key to victory for both odds favourites, in my opinion, is their jabs. The sooner they establish their left stick, the sooner they will assume control of the fight.

"Now, will I be shocked if Wilder or Joshua have to survive a wobbly moment or two after getting clocked with a clean shot? Not at all. I won't be that surprised if either gets dropped. A KO upset in either fight is not out of the realm of possibility.

"That's why we're into these matchups. The heavyweight division is heating up."

Fischer's predictions come on top of British writer Alan Hubbard tipping Parker to upset Joshua.

Hubbard's article needs to be taken with a grain of salt as it comes in his regular column for the website of Frank Warren, the British promoter who operates in opposition to Joshua's boss Eddie Hearn.

But Hubbard knows his boxing and talked up Parker's strong chin and ring-craft despite labelling him "a relatively humdrum heavyweight".

He also continued the growing theory that Joshua's preoccupation with body building was working against him.

"It would not surprise me to see Anthony Joshua lose his trio of heavyweight crowns to WBO holder Joseph Parker in the spring," Hubbard wrote.

"AJ seems to have accumulated a tad too much muscle of late, which is restricting his mobility – and he will need to be nifty against Parker who is a mover rather than a shaker.

"Parker may not be the greatest of world heavyweight champions but he is a capable boxer who seems to have a decent chin and knows how to use the ring to steer clear of danger.

"But perhaps more ominously I fear that AJ may be due an off night after four years and 20 winning bouts and that the Samoan-born Kiwi [sic], relatively humdrum heavyweight as he may be, looks just the type who might nudge Big Josh towards a sensational points defeat."

Meanwhile, Hearn emerged from his meeting with Parker's promoter David Higgins in a confident mood.

"I think we are fairly close, we're probably a few days away [from announcing the fight]," he told Behind The Gloves.

"There are some issues we could fall out on but generally, we should get it over the line from here, hopefully next week," Hearn said.

Joshua backed up the imminent announcement of the fight with his latest tweet featuring a video of him completing a length of a swimming pool under water, captioned: "Hold your breath, news coming soon."

Anthony Joshua

@anthonyfjoshua
Hold your breath, news coming soon ??#AJBXNG
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#39
A loss would be a bad thing if JP or AJ gets KO'd early. It'll either be that JP is over-matched or AJ has a glass jaw.
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#40
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/100514875/fireworks-tipped-for-joseph-parkers-first-meeting-with-anthony-joshua
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