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A few things I didnt see from Stiverne which he needed to bring but didn't:
- A jab, he actually has a good jab but only saw it a few times total against Wilder,
- high volume/workrate, not normally his style as he relies on counter punching and waiting for the right moment,
- not enough body an head movement, especially if you are going to use peekabo defence,
and last, no or very little body shots, completely head hunting.
He added 10 pounds to this fight, I dont know if this was part of his game plan. why smaller reach boxers feel the need to put on weight to gets me.
New discoveries from Wilder:
-hes got the stamina and engine to take him through to the end,
-his already effective jab and double jab has gone up an extra notch,
-his left and right hook are sharper and not as looping,
-his patience and boxing IQ have increased 10 fold,
Ideally I would like Wilder to take another fight or 2 that are going to take Wilder to the distance before facing the giant Klit. He maybe a little cocky but I like him...nothing like an American to try and spice things up.
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(01-19-2015, 10:36 PM)Cosmic Drop Wrote: A few things I didnt see from Stiverne which he needed to bring but didn't:
- A jab, he actually has a good jab but only saw it a few times total against Wilder,
- high volume/workrate, not normally his style as he relies on counter punching and waiting for the right moment,
- not enough body an head movement, especially if you are going to use peekabo defence,
and last, no or very little body shots, completely head hunting.
He added 10 pounds to this fight, I dont know if this was part of his game plan. why smaller reach boxers feel the need to put on weight to gets me.
New discoveries from Wilder:
-hes got the stamina and engine to take him through to the end,
-his already effective jab and double jab has gone up an extra notch,
-his left and right hook are sharper and not as looping,
-his patience and boxing IQ have increased 10 fold,
Ideally I would like Wilder to take another fight or 2 that are going to take Wilder to the distance before facing the giant Klit. He maybe a little cocky but I like him...nothing like an American to try and spice things up.
Stiverne needed to be like Tyson is what you are saying eh? if so, i agree wholeheartedly. No head movement behind that jailbar defense was just asking to be hit. He didnt jab because Wilder controlled the range too well and in doing so he took away stivernes jab...and ever other punch that comes after that.
I did see many opportunities for Bermane to cut the ring off, but i think the power of Wilder troubled him. The power didnt stop him from going forward, but it did stop him wanting to get mixed up in an exchange. Stiverne did get dropped at the end of a round, its just a bit lucky that he took Wilder down with him in a tackle, and Weeks missed the knockdown. That Stiverne can take a shot cant he!!
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Tyson Fury eyes future showdown with Deontay Wilder
By Hennessy Sports | January 19, 2015 | 22 Comments
Fury claims it would be ‘the biggest fight in world boxing’. Fury defends his WBO International heavyweight title against Christian Hammer on February 28.
European heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has expressed his delight at seeing Deontay Wilder lift the WBC world heavyweight title last weekend and now seeks to dethrone the heavy-handed American later this year.
Wilder outboxed Bermane Stiverne for 12 rounds in Las Vegas on Saturday night and, in doing so, became America’s first world heavyweight champion since 2006. Fury, who boxes Christian Hammer on February 28 at London’s O2 Arena, couldn’t have been happier with how it all worked out.
“It was big man versus little man and the big man boxed tall, just as I did against Dereck Chisora,” he said. “He outboxed the smaller man with ease.
“Wilder did a good job on Stiverne and he’s now got the WBC title. That puts him in line for big fights against people like me, Wladimir Klitschko and whoever else. America has a new heavyweight champion of the world and the big boys are back in the division. The division has been set on fire again.
“It was definitely the result I wanted. Stiverne, although a good champion, was a bit of an unknown. Nobody knew who he was and nobody cared. Now America has a new heavyweight champion. Also, Wilder’s undefeated and a knockout artist. That means the division has been given a lift and we’re all back in business.”
A fight between Wilder and Fury seems something of an inevitability given their respective ages, career trajectories and exuberant personalities. And, with world titles now up for grabs, it appears even more of a certainty in 2015.
“I don’t like Deontay Wilder and he doesn’t like me,” said Fury, 23 (17 KOs). “I think he’s a big hype-job. We once had a bit of a falling out in Sheffield at one of Mick Hennessy’s boxing shows and I told him one day I will get him in the ring and knock him out. That is still my plan.
“He’s got a title now and I’m the mandatory challenger for Wladimir Klitschko. In an ideal world I’d like to fight Klitschko first, because he’s got most of the belts and he’s the number one in the division, and then I’d like to unify all the titles against Deontay Wilder. Potentially, I’m three or four fights away from being the unified heavyweight champion of the world.”
Should the fight between Fury and Wilder materialise later this year, the Manchester man is under no illusions as to just how big an event it could become.
“It would be the biggest selling fight with the greatest smack talk in heavyweight history,” he said. “No other fight could come close to it. It would be pure entertainment.
“Back in the (Muhammad) Ali days, there was only one man doing the talking. The others wouldn’t talk. This is different, though. We can both talk, we both play the press and we are both natural born entertainers. That’s why it’s the biggest fight out there as far as I’m concerned. It’s not just the biggest fight in the heavyweight division, it’s the biggest fight in world boxing.
“I’m a big puncher, he’s a big puncher, and it’s just a matter of who lands first. I wouldn’t go out there to try and outbox somebody who is probably quicker than me. I’d go out there to switch his lights off. I’d look to demolish him early. There’d be a guaranteed knockout in the early rounds. Either way, it will be over very fast.”
Promoter Mick Hennessy added: “Wilder’s win at the weekend has put the heavyweight division back where it should be. It has made it interesting again. It has given it a new lease of life.
“Wilder and Tyson are two unbeaten sensations. They’re proper modem day heavyweights, modern day gladiators; both are over 6’7 in height and are athletic.
“Ultimately, though, I think Tyson is in a different league to the likes of Wilder and Stiverne. I think he would take care of both of them on the same night. I thought that before Saturday night and I’m even more confident now. I don’t just think Tyson outclasses Wilder, I think he blasts him out.”
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Wilder will make Fury look like a small child when he gets hit for the first time. Fury gets away with his mistakes and he tries to box like he can actually box the same way under pressure. he cant. Fury is very crude and has more holes than Wilder.
Wilder has his share of foibles too, but not as much as Fury does.
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Stiverne OK after hospital treatment in wake of boxing bout
January 20, 2015, 6:55 pm
Stiverne OK after hospital treatment in wake of boxing bout
Los Angeles (AFP) - Former heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne was released from a Las Vegas hospital after being treated for dehydration in the wake of his title loss to Deontay Wilder.
At a press conference on Monday afternoon, Stiverne said dehydration hindered him during the bout, in which Wilder claimed the World Boxing Council heavyweight world title with a dominating 12-round decision.
"Unfortunately I was not able to perform in the fight like I wanted to due to severe dehydration and muscle damage," he said.
Stiverne, who was born in Haiti but grew up in Montreal, dropped to 24-2-1 with 21 knockouts. The 36-year-old said Saturday night he felt vulnerable and slow, and had no explanation for feeling "flat" in the ring.
"I did not know the severity of it Saturday night," he said. "I was able to give the people a good show, 12 rounds of boxing. If I had to do it again I would do it again. This is not the end for me. I will give it a couple weeks and then get back to work."
Both the 36-year-old Stiverne and promoter Don King said they didn't want to take anything away from Wilder, who said Saturday he fought from the third or fourth round on with an injured right hand.
"We want to applaud Deontay Wilder for doing his job," King said. "Deontay performed and did a great job. We praise Deontay and hope he can be champion long enough to where we can have a rematch."
Stiverne had won the WBC title in May when he stopped Chris Arreola in the sixth round.
The title had become vacant by the retirement of Vitali Klitschko.
Klitschko's brother, Wladimir Klitschko, holds all the other major heavyweight belts.
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Wilder would be crazy to try and step up to Klitchko, he's no where near that level. He needs to take on and dominate a bunch of top 10 guys to take the next step up....Maybe when he's 40-0 he'll be ready.
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He'll never be ready, unless Klit deteriorates. After all, he IS 38. No, what I think Wilder needs to do is fight Tyson Fury, win, and then challenge Klit. He's just too awkward and lacking in boxing skills to improve enough to beat Klit. His best chance is to ride on a high with the Stiverne and Tyson Fury victories, and then throw hell for leather against Klit and hope he connects with one of those right hands. If he loses, he joins Stiverne, Arreola, Tyson Fury, Tony Thompson, and maybe one or two others in the top 10 and fight anyone not named Klit.
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Can anyone be ready to challenge Klit? Regardless if you like him or not im afraid Klit will dominate till he says hes had enough.
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Only way to beat Klit is to challenge and fire at him, hoping you'll catch him before he octupusses you. Wilder will do that, Tyson Fury will do that, because they have the size. I just don't think they have the boxing skill. But they do have the power to hurt him and reach him. And father time may catch up with him and hurt him.
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Is that really you Mrs D, or has Diehard hijacked your PC again?
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