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AJ vs Klit is ON!!!
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10-20-2016, 01:07 PM
Klit is ranked WBA #2. AJ isn't even ranked in the WBA. Why would they fight for the title? Ortiz is ranked #1 by the WBA.
If Klit doesn't fight AJ for a single title (IBF), he would then fight Browne for a single title (WBA)? Sounds like Klit is copping out. 
10-20-2016, 01:28 PM
Why is the WBA title "important" to klitschko?
Historically that's the bum belt of the division that Valuev chagaev and ruiz used to pass around Sounds like BS to me
10-20-2016, 01:41 PM
I guess I feel differently about this than the majority here. I think Wlad should do what's best for him. If it's fighting Browne for a title, so be it. Browne's after a pay day, and fair enough, Joshua's got more than enough money. I don't understand why he's getting so much shit. He was the champ for 10 years, then dethroned, surely now he's entitled to a comeback fight at home considering the circumstances.
It's disappointing the fight isn't being made but there's plenty of other opponents for AJ that would make for a great fight.
10-20-2016, 01:48 PM
If the fight was never made except for this, it would be no big deal. Plus, he disgraced himself for not fighting against Fury, and then opts out of fighting AJ (too tough) and wants to fight a club fighter (Browne).
10-20-2016, 04:28 PM
(10-20-2016, 01:41 PM)Msreef Wrote: I guess I feel differently about this than the majority here. I think Wlad should do what's best for him. If it's fighting Browne for a title, so be it. Browne's after a pay day, and fair enough, Joshua's got more than enough money. I don't understand why he's getting so much shit. He was the champ for 10 years, then dethroned, surely now he's entitled to a comeback fight at home considering the circumstances. Because mostly he fought bums during his 10 year reign. Granted there weren't any real threats around at that time but now there are he's avoiding them Before he lost to fury he had no interest in fighting the likes of wilder etc and Vitali took on most of the guys who were a stylistic threat to him. His performance against povetkin was nigh on disgraceful albeit won him the fight. Point is guys like wilder and Joshua are the first guys ssince Lennox retired who have the size and attributes to give klitschko a fight and he doesn't fancy it.
10-20-2016, 05:59 PM
How did boxing's blue-riband heavyweight class turn into a mess?
Wladimir Klitschko holds the whip hand in the heavyweight division after Tyson Fury was stripped of his belts. OPINION: With Joshua v Klitschko falling apart, Gareth A Davies looks at ways to rescue the heavyweight division. Why does Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko look to have been scuppered? Promoter Eddie Hearn was desperate for his heavyweight Joshua, the International Boxing Federation champion, to face Klitschko on December 10 as it was the glitziest, most lucrative fight available. But Klitschko's management team had other ideas. Anthony Joshua is looking for alternative opponents and could yet call up Joseph Parker for his mandatory challenge. They are unhappy that the Ukrainian has gone through two training camps to no avail, with Tyson Fury having pulled out twice from a contracted rematch for the World Boxing Organisation and World Boxing Association belts. Klitschko is wary of facing Joshua, a hungry and talented young fighter, and the WBA is believed to be offering the Ukrainian the option of fighting one of its highly-ranked contenders, either Australia's Lucas Browne or Alexander Ustinov, the Russian. Hearn has now been forced to look at other options. How and why are two belts vacant? Fury's shock victory over Klitschko in Dusseldorf last November earned him the WBO, IBF and WBA titles. He was stripped of the IBF title 16 days later for not defending against the Ukrainian mandatory challenger Vyacheslav Glazkov. Fury vacated the WBO and WBA titles two weeks ago because of mental health concerns. What are the options now for Hearn and Joshua? Joshua's No 1 challenger for the IBF title should be Luis Ortiz, the Cuban also promoted by Hearn, but he is already scheduled to fight in Monte Carlo on November 12. That means Hearn is now seeking alternative opponents: potential challengers include the Bulgarian Kubrat Pulev, ranked No 2, or David Haye, the Briton ranked No 3. The added complication comes in the form of mandatory IBF challenger Joe Parker, the New Zealander. He is looking at fighting for the vacant WBO crown, but Parker could yet be called into play by Hearn - although that would be a risk. It also remains to be seen whether Hearn is happy to match Joshua with Haye this year. Haye would pose danger to Joshua in the first few rounds, but it would generate huge interest in Britain. When did the sport's problems begin? In 1948, the European Boxing Union, the British Boxing Board, the US National Boxing Board and the New York Commission joined forces to create an overall world champion. But it did not last. The recognition of a single world heavyweight champion fractured in 1962 when the WBA was set up, with 51 member countries joining them. The following year the WBC was formed in Mexico City. The IBF came into existence in 1983, based in New Jersey, with the WBO then set up in 1988, in South Africa. Creating four versions of the heavyweight crown meant more fights, and more lucrative nights, but much promotional wrangling. The four sanctioning bodies are all powerful in their own right, and at times do work together, sharing sanctioning fees; at other times, when rival promoters with differing television deals cannot concur, the titles are not unified. But in the end, money talks. That is why Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson eventually fought after protracted negotiations, with TV rivals HBO and Showtime coming together, as they did for Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. Why is the heavyweight division particularly prone to this kind of wrangling? Because it is the sport's blue riband class - hence the saying: There is boxing; and there is heavyweight boxing. It is tantamount to a business all of its own, with especially complex political machinations, finances and television deals to be organised before contracts are signed. Aside from with those characters in the lighter weight divisions who have unique appeal, such as Mayweather, Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya, the money in the heavyweight division has always been on another level. There have been troughs, but a world title in it has been called 'the richest prize in sport' for good reason. The cachet in holding a heavyweight belt remains huge. Who really are the best seven heavyweights at the moment? Ranking them in order, the best seven current heavyweights, in my view, are: Fury, Klitschko, Deontay Wilder, the American WBC title-holder, the Russian Alexander Povetkin, Ortiz, Joshua and Parker. But these rankings could change dramatically on December 10, when three belts could be contested on one night, and again over the following six months. So what are the fights we really want to see? The bouts that would generate the most interest are Klitschko-Joshua, Fury-Klitschko, Fury-Joshua, Fury-Wilder, Joshua-Wilder, and if Parker can develop a name for himself, Joshua-Parker in the UK next year. What is likely to happen in the short term? With no announcement of Joshua-Klitschko, it appears that six teams are set on creating the huge night on December 10, with three fights taking place in England, Germany and New Zealand. Joshua will most likely defending his IBF title in Manchester against Pulev, Haye or possibly Parker. However, Parker is more likely to look to secure the vacant WBO belt in New Zealand, against Andy Ruiz, the Mexican overseen by veteran promoter Bob Arum. Klitschko, meanwhile, is likely to fight in Hamburg for the vacant WBA title, against Browne. WBC champion Wilder will return from injury and defend his belt in 2017. Fury could also return next year to spice up the division. What are the chances of Joshua vs Klitschko ever happening? It will depend on what direction Klitschko intends to go. Joshua is ready to fight the 40-year-old, in spite of the vast gulf in experience. A fight next summer, if both are world champions, would be one of the biggest sporting events of the year, and would easily fill Wembley Stadium. The longer Klitschko waits, the more experience Joshua acquires, and the more likely the rising British boxing star triumphs. - The Telegraph, London
10-20-2016, 10:21 PM
The worst thing sbout this is listening to Wlad bigging up a browne or Usinov fight in typical cringy fashion. Such a hack
10-21-2016, 09:52 AM
There's been lots of rumours of Wlad vs Browne, but this seems to shoot it down:
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2016/10/20/news/exclusive-browne-lawyer-says-klitschko-contact-made-but-deal-unable-to-be-made?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
10-25-2016, 10:46 AM
Training injury further stalls Wladimir Klitschko's messing return to action
Wladimir Klitschko's struggles to return to the boxing ring continue with an injury complicating his promotional problems. Former world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko has reportedly injured a calf muscle, ruling him out of a December showdown with either Anthony Joshua or Lucas Browne. The injury adds further confusion to boxing's glamour division. Klitschko has been in heavy negotiations with Joshua about a world title fight, hoping to add the vacant WBA belt to Joshua's IBF for the spoils of a fight scheduled for December 10 in Manchester. But with delays over the WBA sanctioning a fight for a belt freed up by Tyson Fury's sidelining, Klitschko has also been in talks with Australian Browne about a fight in Hamburg on the same date. That is now academic with ESPN reporting that Klitschko will have to wait until early next year before re-entering the competitive ring. "The specific nature of the injury is unclear, but one source said it was a calf injury," ESPN's report said. Interest will centre on how Klitschko sorts out his future in 2017. He hasn't fought since losing his titles to Fury last November and has had two rematches with Fury cancelled. The immediate interest will now fall on how Joshua's promoter Eddie Hearn reacts to this development. It is understand he is eyeing fellow Brit David Price as a likely opponent for Joshua's world title defence. Any hopes Hearn had of calling up New Zealander Joseph Parker, the IBF's mandatory challenger, disappeared when the Kiwi decided to go down the WBO route for a world title, getting a title fight against Mexico's Andy Ruiz sanctioned. That fight is scheduled for Auckland on December 10 although financial difficulties covering the promotion could see it switched to the United States. - Stuff |
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