(04-19-2017, 02:51 PM)diehard Wrote:

(04-19-2017, 02:00 PM)shamrock Wrote:

(04-19-2017, 01:42 PM)diehard Wrote: Ah Sham, quit your messin'.  You don't want Hughie to win anymore than I do.  Stirrer.

Die, Naki is stirring he wants Hughie to win....

Sham, clearly you found too many chocolates on your Easter Egg Hunt.  As far as NakiFan is concerned, I don't know if he went Easter Egg Hunting or not.  If he did, he didn't find anything, as we only have cow manure on the ground in the 'Naki.

(04-19-2017, 11:09 AM)shamrock Wrote:

(04-19-2017, 01:58 AM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote:

(04-14-2017, 10:50 AM)shamrock Wrote:

(04-14-2017, 12:41 AM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote: He's got a good chance.  He's still a quality fighter and he's by far the best fighter AJ has fought.  

Dunno about the Irish being cream of British boxing haha.  Carl Frampton's the only one I consider elite level.  The Fury's are good and acknowledge their Irish roots but identify as English.  Apart from that the Irish are pretty thin in the boxing world.

The Fury's could light up the Brit scene much brighter than AJ has. BUT their roots are with the travellers and that's their pride, they don't proclaim BRITISH they make huge noises about IRISH and their heritage among the fighting Gypsy's. BECAUSE they are IRISH bred.

Wlad a champ for 11years and you still deny him respect!? How bizarre is that??? Funny, at 41 he's still a 50/50 match for AJ, England's brightest star

They really don't proclaim their Irish.  Tyson has said constantly that he's a big Manchester gypsy.  Manchester is in England.  Hughie wanted the Parker fight in his hometown of where? Manchester.  Manchester is their home.  Tyson was with the England fans for the Euros, with his England shirt on.  Like Inferno said, they are second generation English.  Where do you draw the line of nationality?  All 4 of my grandparents were Irish.  Born in Ireland.  I'm not Irish though.  I was born in England, to parents who were born in England.  Also, the Fury's couldn't light up the Brit scene brighter than AJ because they would have done it already.  They haven't because of a number of reasons, not because they are travellers.  Tyson divides too many opinions.  Personally I love Tyson Fury, but some people hate him because his mouth.  Plus they both have a style that's not particularly exciting to watch. Then you have AJ who knocks people out, says all the right things and looks like a calvin klein model.  Whereas Tyson looks about 40.  AJ is a commercial dream whereas Tyson is not.  It's a shame but that's life. 

I'm not sure where I denied Wlad respect.  Pretty sure I said he was really good.  His style is limited though.  

Because of Tyson's mouth he will always vilify himself. Proclaiming they're Irish? They always draw on their Irish Ancestry..

Where to draw the line? Lets face it, you are Irish UK Fight Fan whether you say so or not. If you were Chinese, Mongolian, Nigerian or Asian you would always be looked upon as such because of your looks colour and persuasions and you accept that because its illuminated as such. Your white skin and desire to be English is a disguise on paper. Your Irish passport will declare you are an Irish citizen no need to apply to be one.

I don't see Tyson Fury getting his life back into heavyweight boxing harness however, the guy will never get to where he was when he beat Wlad. Mental disorders take years to mend, he will always have problems and they will stigmatise his life.

(04-20-2017, 06:06 AM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote:

(04-19-2017, 11:09 AM)shamrock Wrote:

(04-19-2017, 01:58 AM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote:

(04-14-2017, 10:50 AM)shamrock Wrote:

(04-14-2017, 12:41 AM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote: He's got a good chance.  He's still a quality fighter and he's by far the best fighter AJ has fought.  

Dunno about the Irish being cream of British boxing haha.  Carl Frampton's the only one I consider elite level.  The Fury's are good and acknowledge their Irish roots but identify as English.  Apart from that the Irish are pretty thin in the boxing world.

The Fury's could light up the Brit scene much brighter than AJ has. BUT their roots are with the travellers and that's their pride, they don't proclaim BRITISH they make huge noises about IRISH and their heritage among the fighting Gypsy's. BECAUSE they are IRISH bred.

Wlad a champ for 11years and you still deny him respect!? How bizarre is that??? Funny, at 41 he's still a 50/50 match for AJ, England's brightest star

They really don't proclaim their Irish.  Tyson has said constantly that he's a big Manchester gypsy.  Manchester is in England.  Hughie wanted the Parker fight in his hometown of where? Manchester.  Manchester is their home.  Tyson was with the England fans for the Euros, with his England shirt on.  Like Inferno said, they are second generation English.  Where do you draw the line of nationality?  All 4 of my grandparents were Irish.  Born in Ireland.  I'm not Irish though.  I was born in England, to parents who were born in England.  Also, the Fury's couldn't light up the Brit scene brighter than AJ because they would have done it already.  They haven't because of a number of reasons, not because they are travellers.  Tyson divides too many opinions.  Personally I love Tyson Fury, but some people hate him because his mouth.  Plus they both have a style that's not particularly exciting to watch. Then you have AJ who knocks people out, says all the right things and looks like a calvin klein model.  Whereas Tyson looks about 40.  AJ is a commercial dream whereas Tyson is not.  It's a shame but that's life. 

I'm not sure where I denied Wlad respect.  Pretty sure I said he was really good.  His style is limited though.  

Because of Tyson's mouth he will always vilify himself. Proclaiming they're Irish? They always draw on their Irish Ancestry..

Where to draw the line? Lets face it, you are Irish UK Fight Fan whether you say so or not. If you were Chinese, Mongolian, Nigerian or Asian you would always be looked upon as such because of your looks colour and persuasions and you accept that because its illuminated as such. Your white skin and desire to be English is a disguise on paper. Your Irish passport will declare you are an Irish citizen no need to apply to be one.

I don't see Tyson Fury getting his life back into heavyweight boxing harness however, the guy will never get to where he was when he beat Wlad. Mental disorders take years to mend, he will always have problems and they will stigmatise his life.

I'll have to agree to disagree.  

I don't have an Irish passport.  You're only saying I'm Irish because my grandparents were Irish.  But where were their parents born? and so on? This is why I asked, where do you draw the line?  European countries have invaded each other for centuries, I could be made up of all sorts if you traced it back. Go back further and then are we all African? Or does it stop at grandparents? I was born and bred in dirty old Manchester, England.  I'm not some fake Irishman jumping on my ancestors birth certificate to make me seem more interesting than I actually am.  I know what and who I am, and where I was raised. 

Tyson will be back, and you are probably right he won't be the same.